Is there such a thing as an ‘open-minded contrarian’ or am I taking too much liberty with considering how being a contrarian can be a good thing? After all, the single word definition for contrary is antagonistic; pretty hard to put a good spin on that word...
Main Entry: contrary
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: antagonisticSynonyms: adverse, anti, antipathetic, antipodal, antipodean, antithetical, balky, clashing, conflicting, contradictory, contumacious, converse, counter, diametric, discordant, dissentient, dissident, froward, headstrong, hostile, inconsistent, inimical, insubordinate, intractable, negative, nonconforming, nonconformist, obstinate, opposed, ornery, paradoxical, perverse, rebellious, recalcitrant, recusant, refractory, restive, reverse, stubborn, unruly, wayward, wrongheaded
Antonyms: accommodating, agreeable, complaisant, concordant, harmonious
Notes: contrary describes something that contradicts a proposition, converse is used when the elements of a proposition are reversed, opposite pertains to that which is diametrically opposed to a proposition, and reverse can mean each of those.
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Still... I continue to be intrigued with this word, contrary, and these lists of words, both synonyms and antonyms both: They provide us with such a delicious opportunity to read them and argue with them as a open-minded contrarian would!
These were the wayward thoughts that popped into my head after reading a few of the comments left on Joyful Jubilant Learning for Terry Starbucker’s review of The Four Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss;
Thanks, Terry. I'll admit to dismissing the book due to its title and hype as another quick sell and the only way it really works for the author is because we have bought his book. I'll give it a second chance now with your insights. ~ Steve Sherlock
Thanks for this review of the book Terry. I've got so sick of reading people gushing about it that I'd quite determined not to read it (being a bit contrary like that!), you've opened up my mind to what I could learn from it, and applying the learning that works for me, as you have done. Cheers ~ Joanna Young
Joanna & Steve - precisely the reason that I haven't picked up the book either. I believe the fact this book is popular speaks to a real state of how much unhappiness there really is in the workforce. ~ Dave Rothacker
It is difficult for me to take these comments in anything but a constructive way, for in knowing Steve, Joanna and Dave as I do, you would be hard pressed to find three more optimistic and positive people. What actually unfolds there at Joyful Jubilant Learning is how they do become open-minded contrarians because they trust Terry and his recommendations, and because they are so willing to open themselves up to the possibility that they could have been wrong. Or, they are still right, but with bigger capacity for "and" thinking versus "or" thinking.
Because of their relationship with Terry, and with Joyful Jubilant Learning, all three did not skip over his review, but read it. They all had positive expectancy. Further, they commented and fully exposed their vulnerability and contrariness willingly.
Second, I too must admit to being cautious about hype, and loving the thought of resisting sameness and anything run-of-the-mill or deceptively popular. I think of being contrary as possibly being brave, independent, intelligently inquisitive and free thinking. Why don't those words show up in that definition?
Now in this particular case, you can count me among those who have really enjoyed the book. As I had written back in July when I first got my own copy of the book;
I have begun to read The 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy Ferriss. I’m only about seventy pages into it, but I can already tell it will be one of those books that really gets me to re-think about things that I have come to believe I’ve already thought through. It’s a book that is telling me how wrong I am on virtually every page, and I’m okay with that. In fact, I’m thrilled. Ferriss can give my brain as many kick-starts as he wants.
You can never get too lazy about thinking. Thinking is the humility muscle in your brain that lies somewhere in-between those other two halves some people talk about. Far as I can tell, there’s no learning without thinking. I call it the ‘humility muscle’ because it can handle that bully we all have inside us called our ego.
Now thinking can be laborious and joyless, or it can be liberating and jubilant. So far, Ferriss is giving me the liberating and jubilant kind of thinking, and I really, really love it!
In what I’ve read so far, there’s been one thought in particular that keeps bugging me though, so much so that I had to put the book aside for moment to write this for you.
Ferris says that “most people will never know what they want” and the more I think about this, I realize how right he is about that.
Most of us struggle with our goals because we are really terrible at dreaming up the good stuff. We just copy-cat the dreams which currently seem to be popular with most of the world, even though they don’t keep us up at night chomping at the bit for them. If we actually manage to nail them, we then wonder why achieving our goals is kind of boring, and not all they’re cracked up to be.

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There are several reasons I love being part of the Joyful Jubilant Learning community, and the way it causes me to think and think deeply is a biggie.
It is hard for me to articulate it precisely... there is something about the atmosphere of Joyful Jubilant Learning that calls out for such intelligent conversation... when you comment there, you strive to be thoughtful, clear, and smart, but you also feel so comfortable with completely opening yourself up to being wrong.
And you go back. With all due respect to the scores of brilliantly written blogs which are now thriving, and to their equally or more intelligent communities of readers, there is no other blog a match for the magnetic way that Joyful Jubilant Learning pulls me in to the same conversations time and time again. To know that I would leave a conversation unfinished there is just unimaginable.
Perhaps it is the nature of the inquisitive learner who is attracted to Joyful Jubilant Learning. Perhaps it is the Hui (group) of Authors there who are such gentle teachers and patient coaches, and who more than anything else are themselves learners first and foremost too.
You see, you also open yourself up to being delighted there too. This was the comment that Dean Boyer had left for me back in July, and I have often clicked back there to read it again because of the way it makes me smile, but also makes me think about if I am an open-minded contrarian enough; one who refuses to take on any negativity or gloom and doom at all. I swear I can feel those joyful, jubilant, learning bubbles rising within me and popping with energy each time I read it:
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Rosa, Here's a marvelous quote to encourage this spirit of childhood! Walk in the rain, jump in mud puddles, collect rocks, rainbows and roses, smell flowers, blow bubbles, stop along the way, build sandcastles, say hello to everyone, go barefoot, go on adventures, act silly, fly kites, have a merry heart, talk with animals, sing in the shower, read childrens' books, take bubble baths, get new sneakers, hold hands and hug and kiss, dance, laugh and cry for the health of it, wonder and wander around, feel happy and precious and innocent, feel scared, feel sad, feel mad, give up worry and guilt and shame, say yes, say no, say the magic words, ask lots of questions, ride bicycles, draw and paint, see things differently, fall down and get up again, look at the sky, watch the sun rise and sun set, watch clouds and name their shapes, watch the moon and stars come out, trust the universe, stay up late, climb trees, daydream, do nothing and do it very well, learn new stuff, be excited about everything, be a clown, enjoy having a body, listen to music, find out how things work, make up new rules, tell stories, save the world, make friends with the other kids on the block, and do anything else that brings more happiness, celebration, health, love, joy, creativity, pleasure, abundance, grace, self-esteem, courage, balance, spontaneity, passion, beauty, peace, relaxation, communication and life energy to...all living beings on this planet. -Bruce Williamson, It's Never Too Late To Have A Happy Childhood, 1987 |
Now in the spirit of full disclosure, I have to tell you that I moonlight at Joyful Jubilant Learning as the blog's managing editor besides contributing an article or two. So you could probably rightly say that I am not completely objective in my feelings about what happens there.
So fine. Call me on it. Visit for yourself and be an open-minded contrarian as you challenge me. Go on, get involved in some of the conversations and see how you begin to feel about them...I dare ya.
Jump into conversations like these: A Perfect Mess. Thick Face Black Heart. Fish! and most recently, Three Cups of Tea. All can be found in A Love Affair with Books.
~ Rosa
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Rosa,
My parents used to say I was 'contrary' when I was a child... and I was never sure whether that was a bad thing, or a good thing. But whether good or bad, contrariness certainly starts a conversation, doesn't it?
I am in two minds about The 4-Hour Work Week. Yes, I own the book. No, I didn't get past the first chapter or so before it was packed away like the rest of my house late last year. After reading Terry's review, and the subsequent conversation you talk about here, including Joanna, Steve and Dave's comments, I was motivated to get the book out and read it again. (But it will have to wait until the bookshelves are up and the boxes can be unpacked).
I am intrigued enough by the review and the conversation to give the book another 'go' and see what I can learn from it. Maybe it's the contrarianism - it makes me want to pick up the book and make up my own mind - despite the negative, despite the hype. Does that make ME contrary? My family certainly think so...
You will note I didn't leave a comment on the book review at JJL. There was a reason for that. I was lost for words. Thank you Rosa for helping me find them again.
By the way, I too keep going back to that quote from Dean - I read it every day...
Posted by: Karen Wallace | March 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Thanks for this posting Rosa. As you know, Joyful Jubilant Learning is more than just a blog. The coming together for the conversations around books and other worthwhile topics creates a wonderful life of its own.
Thanks also for raising Dean's quote on children. I recall reading it when he wrote it but as it had been "buried" it was not an easy point to reference.
Technically this is one of the problems with blogs and blogging software. It is so focused on the now, the good stuff that did occur and can still bring value by re-reading, taking a new trail of comments, or conversation tends to get buried in the archives.
I went digging for a posting I did once upon a time to include in my upcoming book review. I knew I wrote it. I could recall the keywords but needed Google to dig it up for me and I was surprised with where I found it.
Some future blogging software will have something like the keyword bubbles in a cloud mapped such to bring those past thoughts to the present more readily. I am even struggling with how to depict what it would look like so I don't blame the software developers for not having anticipated our need yet.
Posted by: Steve Sherlock | March 16, 2008 at 01:51 AM
The references and commentary on this book are a clear message for me, tied in closely with recent work-related events. The comment in Terry's review about how not delegating leadership creates a situation where a manager is too busy to lead really hit home.
I'd be delighted with a 40 or 50 hour work week, and if this book provides the inspiration and a path to achieving it, I'm there!
Posted by: Sandy Edwards | March 16, 2008 at 04:06 AM
Karen, your first mention of your parents made me smile, for I can recall some of those conversations too —both as child and now as parent! And you are right; the contrariness is the trigger (or target?) and the sorting out of the conversation that ensues is where so much gets revealed. I like what you say about using Terry’s review and its conversation as the impetus for making up your own mind, and when you are ready, if that box proves too out-of-reach still, I concur with the comment Dwayne Melancon had left at JJL that the audio version is very good. I have yet to read the entire book myself —in that style of “full contact reading” we talked of at JJL— but I’ve made a once-through listening while on my daily walk; it made me pick up the pace!
Sandy, something else Dwayne said there, was “I often get into discussions about this book with some coworkers who've read it, as well.” And I’d agree that The 4-Hour Work Week can make for a good “let’s read this together” selection in the workplace —enroll everyone else in your goal. It’s pretty conducive to chapter-module work versus tackling the whole book: For instance, if productivity is the goal, I think his Step II section, “E is for Elimination” is a winner, starting with chapter 5 on “The End of Time Management.” He has a great way of applying the Pareto Principle (80/20 Rule), calling it the “freedom from futility.”
And Sandy, like you, I loved this gem from Terry, and am going to copy it here (quicker retrieval for me later Steve!)
“I took it as another form of freedom - leadership freedom.
In other words, if leaders take on too much responsibility, they cease to be leaders - they just don't have the time. If they can trust and delegate responsibility, they can be "free" to do what they should do best - lead and inspire. And talk about vision. And context. And job fulfillment and happiness.
And for the person you entrust with responsibility, they also receive great riches- confidence and self-worth.” —the wise Terry Starbucker
See what else I think about Terry here :) http://tinyurl.com/yojsrc - he was the inspiration for me writing, “Have a Better Conversation, and “Something more can result.”
Posted by: Rosa Say | March 16, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Steve, you have sweetened my anticipation for your review coming up on the 18th!
I share your frustrations with archiving and retrieval, and more than once have wished I had more techie programming knowledge to draw from, with tagging at Del.icio.us just partially doing the trick for me —I just don’t use it consistently enough. One thing I realized recently (in fact, I have another posting in drafts on this) is that I need my own consistent keyword language so that I can build more reliable indexes. I started to play with this one at my Say Leadership Coaching site as a start:
http://www.sayleadershipcoaching.com/slc/CoachingArticleIndex.html
However it is a lot of extra work (and like with Del.icio.us calls for much discipline if it is to be complete) and I am so with you in wanting innovative software development. Going back to what I just wrote for Sandy, I do think that elimination of the fluff or repetition in archives is huge: Categories and tag clouds don’t work that great for me because four years into this now my entries are in their second thousand. I have Google Search on all my sites now because it is still the best way for me to find something.
Posted by: Rosa Say | March 16, 2008 at 08:03 AM
Rosa, what a great conversation! I am laughing at how your headline came about, and must say I feel proud to think of myself as an open-minded contrarian. What a brilliant phrase.
To me it says thinking for myself.
Something I hope I always will do.
Yet you're right, what's so good about JJL is that it encourages us to think, share, challenge, inspire, learn from each other in a most supportive way.
I know many of us have written things there that we wouldn't have felt brave enough to post on our own sites. There's a knowledge of back up, support and encouragement which is first class.
And I too always tune in to the comments because there is always something over and above to pick up and learn there - often more so than in the originating post.
I was thinking earlier about a piece Chris Brogan had written about how he felt without his blog for 8 days. I was thinking that I'd my own blog, but also that JJL would be a huge loss if I didn't have that space to talk, to chat, to chew the fat, to throw ideas around over a virtual cup of coffee.
Anyway, that's my tuppence worth!
Joanna
Posted by: Joanna Young | March 16, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Rosa,
You have thrown us into the deep end of a wave machine pool with this one! I have some swirling initial thoughts about open mindedness and contrariness. The more I think about it the more complicated it gets. So, in a spirit of simplicity I offer these gulping thoughts:
I believe as one thinks in his heart, so is he. Beliefs, founded on truth, become convictions when the mind and heart are living in oneness. I am comfortable living with a closed mind regarding my truth-based convictions. Where being contrary can be damaging is when I am close minded with my preferences. Using preferences to build walls or draw lines in the sand are hurtful.
Next, with an open heart, I be a welcoming person to anyone whether or not we are aligned in our convictions or preferences. To be contrary at this point is ultimately damaging to both of us. It is not my position to judge another but it is my duty to lay out the welcome mat to all who desire to come.
Dean
Posted by: Dean Boyer | March 16, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Rosa - you have nailed me with precise accuracy.
The dynamics of JJL do I believe, encourage us to strive for clarity, thoughtfulness and intelligence. Though there is immense intelligence within the community, no one tries to be cute or flaunt it. This sets the stage to stick a foot in the water. It allows us to be us.
Posted by: dave | March 16, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Mahalo Joanna, your “tuppence worth” is always golden to me :) I’ve sat with the phrase open-minded contrarian for a few days now, and I have begun to like it more and more too! We have often spoken of how powerful the words we choose are, and when they create conversation like this it is so doubly intriguing!
Simplicity does help in so many things, doesn’t it Dean! Yet your mana‘o my friend, is anything but… you share some very wise words with us.
Dave, if I have “nailed you with precise accuracy,” we are two peas in a pod… and Karen and Joanna have pretty much said they are squeezed in with us! Wonderful company to have.
As you all know, we have several discussions about JJL at differing times, and perhaps the one thing we can say with certainty is that the site does live up to its name of joyful learning. And, as French novelist Marcel Proust had said, “The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new lands, but in seeing with new eyes.” We have room on our voyage for open-minded evangelists and contrarians alike!
Posted by: Rosa Say | March 16, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Rosa, et al
I just found this link of timely interest
http://www.fullcirc.com/wp/2008/03/16/harvesting-knowledge-from-text-conversations/
Maybe this will be one of my subjects for our April exploration of digital learning? We have raised wiki once in a while, maybe this time there will be enough of a context to explore further.
Posted by: Steve Sherlock | March 17, 2008 at 07:05 AM
Thank you Steve, that is a great article. I am adding an excerpt here so that I will keep it top of mind and follow-up too... adding "harvesting" to my own vocabulary as well.
OPPORTUNITY:
"There are often amazing threads on email lists and web based discussions. Often they get lost due to the tyranny of recency over relevancy. We remember what we last read. How many times have you heard people say “hey, we discussed that before… where IS that conversation?” Some tools make it easy to search within message, but then you have to reconstruct a thread. There may have had subject line changes, interruptions, etc. It is hard work. That’s why it is useful think about practices to pull out useful stuff so it can provide wider and easier benefit."
SUGGESTIONS IN BRIEF:
"We moved into harvesting what we called “Community Knowledge.” This is the basis of the technique I know use regularly."
1. Role model the harvesting behavior.
2. Ask others to try the behavior.
3. Time the request well.
4. Expect resistance.
5. Encourage those who adopt the practice.
6. Make the value visible.
7. Reduce barriers and support from the side.
This was fascinating: "Last year we had the need to review our technical platforms and lo and behold, the wiki was getting more page views that the community’s older, established content management based site."
Posted by: Rosa Say | March 17, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Hi Rosa - my apologies for not commenting sooner. I'm humbled by the kind words I've read in this post and in the comments. Thank you all! Your post was such a thought provoker for me with your concept of "open-minded contrarians", especially since I've been struggling a bit with my recently more-developed sense of self-awareness - I blogged about that last week.
(http://www.terrystarbucker.com/2008/03/13/an-unexpected-side-effect-of-heightened-self-awareness/)
Here's what I said that summed it up for me:
"So with self improvement comes a need for a rebalancing of sorts. A strong need to keep and cherish what I’ve gained over the past 9 months, but just as strong of a need to harness and use it properly. To keep an open mind. To keep listening. To keep learning and adapting. To absorb, process, and then respond - with understanding, compassion, empathy and wisdom."
That last sequence sounds a lot like the JJL community, doesn't it? :-)
Thanks again, and all the best!
Posted by: Terry Starbucker | March 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Rosa, I smiled as I read this (and not just because you linked to my review). My Cajun grandmother used to tell us kids, "Don't you contrary me!" when we got a bit sassy with her. I thought of that when I read this - thank you.
Posted by: Dwayne Melancon | March 21, 2008 at 11:28 AM
You share yet another great quote with us Terry; mahalo! In my teaching of the MWA approach to vision and mission, I am fond of speaking of "change" and "constants" together versus separately, much for the same feeling your quote conveys: Change initiatives are great in our forward-thinking, but it is good to go for that rebalancing you mention where our keepers (the good constants) are honored as well. I like another word you use - "absorb."
So Dwayne... are those Cajun roots where your clever and spicy wit comes from?
Posted by: Rosa Say | March 21, 2008 at 02:09 PM